http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/ Brought to you by I.II.I en Sat, 31 Jul 2010 20:19:37 +0000 http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/topic/topo-notes#post-22 Tue, 21 Apr 2009 19:13:35 +0000 smceachron 22@http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/ <p>I can't decide if maybe we are having a language barrier, or I'm just a knucklehead - and it may be the latter. In any case, I guess I'm slightly confused. </p> <p>Items (manholes, trees, light poles) collected in the field have a raw description. When these points are imported into Civil 3D (or Land Desktop), we have the ability to apply Description Keys that will result in what we call a "Full Description." So - Raw description is what's collected in the field, a full description is what's shown in a drawing. The descriptions, however, are part of the point (as is the number and the elevation), they are not separate. You can choose to, or choose to not see these descriptions in the drawing. But regardless of which route you take, the descriptions always exist. You have an option of creating what we call external data references, and then labeling these data references automatically, but the references must exist in an external Microsoft Access Database.</p> <p>When objects are collected in the field, most data collectors will give you the ability to add attribute data (e.g the owner of a utility manhole) to a point, or a note to a point. But the attribute data and notes can't be automatically labelled by Civil 3D. If you need to add these notes, then that's a manual addition and can be completed in paper space or model space. I can't tell if you're talking about point Descriptions, or XDRef's, but I'm not sure even that matters.</p> <p>If the issue is with the masking, then turn off the masking in the style, and manually create a mask in model space where the visibility can be controlled via layer name - the mask shows up in one drawing, but not another - or in one viewport, but not another. If the issue is with the automatic sheet/match line generation, then I would ask if is it necessary to use the plan production tools to generate sheets. If you have less than 10 or so sheets, create your own match lines, with your own wipeouts and remove yourself from the mercy of the software.</p> <p>Objects can be moved from model space to paper space using the CHSPACE command, and can be copied through an x'ref using the NCOPY (nested copy) command. Alignment objects can't be labelled in paper space, there is not currently a way to select them through a viewport. So if this is what you're doing, my confusion is growing.</p> <p>HTH,<br /> Scott </p> http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/topic/topo-notes#post-21 Fri, 17 Apr 2009 17:31:48 +0000 Joe 21@http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/ <p>Nope, that's easy. And you have to let the program generate match lines for a plan profile sheet. I have notes that are referred to here at my office as topo notes. They're notes on objects that were picked up during the survey such as manholes, trees, light poles..... You place the notes on your plan view portion of the sheet. They pretty much border the plan viewport. what is happening is with the curvy road and the intersections my match line mask is covering some of my topo notes. I have topo notes that belong on sheet 1 but the mask portion over sheet 2 is covering up the last few notes. I was wondering if you could leave the mask on but bring certain objects to the front, or over the mask. Or even have some notes that only show up on specified sheets. I wish I could select objects from the "model" space on the sheets and draw or place notes on the paper space. Such as selecting an alignment in paper view and placing the station offset notes on the paper view that way there would be no over lap when I have multiple sheets for plans. </p> http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/topic/topo-notes#post-20 Thu, 16 Apr 2009 20:51:18 +0000 smceachron 20@http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/ <p>Currently, match lines are unique for a given alignment - of course, if you let the program generate them. If you dig into the match line style, you'll see you have the ability to turn off the mask. I can't tell for sure by what you've written, but is this what you're looking for?</p> <p>Scott </p> http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/topic/topo-notes#post-18 Wed, 15 Apr 2009 20:23:58 +0000 Joe 18@http://www.121pcs.com/discussion/ <p>I might be missing something majorly obvious here, but I can not for the life of me get my topo notes setup correctly. I have a fairly complicated subdivision that consists of two roads. The main road curves multiple times and the second road is a U shape starting on the main road and ending back on the main road. I can get my alignment stations and offset notes just fine the style is "0+50 tree 12" 20.2'". My problem is is there a way to add the notes straight to a layout sheet so that the match line mask doesn't cover up some. Also is there a way to place match lines between two separate alignments and viewport sets and have the masks work on the sheets. </p>